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#105597 - 03/20/18 03:40 AM Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd.
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Alright, so you know how there's a lot of racists coming out of the woodwork thanks to Trump being a piss poor example of a human being and all? And you know how you’d likely be labeled a racist by all those brainwashed morons who think its racist when, you're just stating fact is all, GOD!

Like, I know the argument for racism because I used to be kind of racist...and still am to a degree tbh, I'm not sure. But…..black people constitute a small fraction of our population yet commit the majority of crimes, by far, per capita or whatever…they can’t rule themselves, every African nation is a goddamn war-torn mess, take a look at Haiti, let’s talk more about Haiti, and finally…there’s Haiti. Jesus Christ, Haiti. And these “people” aren’t even in the same genome, or something. They lack some specific gene that white people have, probably the one that keeps us all from being a bunch of whiney, self-victimized bitches that, aside from accidentally inventing peanut butter, haven’t done a damn thing for civilization except corrupt it with our existence. Saw it on Discovery.

Thug life, yo, their popular culture consists of little more than superficial self-promotion, cause life aint nothing but bitches and money, ya’all. Now where da white women at? Etc etc.

Now say that’s all true…and that there’s no other variables to explain anything, blacks just suck really really hard.

Well before there was thug life…back when black people were given their freedom…they were slapped around pretty good…beaten, hanged etc for sucking just...so really really hard. White people just fucken hated them, just fucken…oooh, hated them so good. Well, why though? What was there to hate about blacks back then? Aside from them being black, I mean?

That’s an honest question, I can understand some hatred when there’s something to base it on, but to just really, really hate someone because they’re black?

Okay, now you can come up with a plethora of ready-made arguments after ten minutes on a white nationalist websites and have some good reason to be up in arms over these black bastards.
But…what’s the end game in that? “Hey, here’s some really great reasons to hate the living hell out of those fuckers, read up, pass it along, there's no way this doesn't end up any way but GREAT!"
Okay, the rallies have served their purpose, we all hate each other that much more...now what? In what way does this play out any other way but horribly, you know?

In other words, if a racist could ask for something that’s a realistic alternative to the way things are now, what would that something be and how should we go about getting there?

Anyway, that's all. And I'm not going to argue, I don't think, it'd just be interesting as hell to get an honest answer as to what people are thinking.
Maybe there's some event horizon for hate we just need to reach? We wear ourselves out and get too tired to fight anymore?

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#105600 - 03/22/18 09:22 PM Re: Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd. [Re: Jango]
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#105602 - 03/25/18 09:48 PM Re: Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd. [Re: Jango]
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Originally Posted By: Jango
Alright, so you know how there's a lot of racists coming out of the woodwork thanks to Trump being a piss poor example of a human being and all? And you know how you’d likely be labeled a racist by all those brainwashed morons who think its racist when, you're just stating fact is all, GOD!

Like, I know the argument for racism because I used to be kind of racist...and still am to a degree tbh, I'm not sure. But…..black people constitute a small fraction of our population yet commit the majority of crimes, by far, per capita or whatever…they can’t rule themselves, every African nation is a goddamn war-torn mess, take a look at Haiti, let’s talk more about Haiti, and finally…there’s Haiti. Jesus Christ, Haiti. And these “people” aren’t even in the same genome, or something. They lack some specific gene that white people have, probably the one that keeps us all from being a bunch of whiney, self-victimized bitches that, aside from accidentally inventing peanut butter, haven’t done a damn thing for civilization except corrupt it with our existence. Saw it on Discovery.

Mmm... I fuck'n hate identity politics.

But you didn't take it far enough Jango. It's not the genes... It's that they are both from poor areas.

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Thug life, yo, their popular culture consists of little more than superficial self-promotion, cause life aint nothing but bitches and money, ya’all. Now where da white women at? Etc etc.

Now say that’s all true…and that there’s no other variables to explain anything, blacks just suck really really hard.

Not really. If you are poor then you are fighting with people who are just as desperate as you are to get to where they believe they should be. It's almost sad that it's just "middle class" they are aiming for.

But back to the point... Someone who shows both they are capable AND willing to take actions to make their lives better are more likely to actually do so. It's almost mandatory to show that you are WILLING to do so, and then make sure others know of it. Don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with people I care about.

I mean hell... You get in these larger cities and you see these poor people running around in 100 dollar plus shoes. That is a status symbol... Absolutely. But it's not really what you think it is... It's more about look at them, see how nice they are... *I STILL HAVE THEM* Try to take them from me. This is who I am.

If you are a weak individual running around the poor side of town with shoes like that, you don't get to keep your nice clothes.

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Well before there was thug life…back when black people were given their freedom…they were slapped around pretty good…beaten, hanged etc for sucking just...so really really hard. White people just fucken hated them, just fucken…oooh, hated them so good. Well, why though? What was there to hate about blacks back then? Aside from them being black, I mean?

They were slaves. They had to pretend, had to KNOW, they were less than human, otherwise who owned them were the monsters. Mogwai if you will.

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That’s an honest question, I can understand some hatred when there’s something to base it on, but to just really, really hate someone because they’re black?

Nope... Had to hate them because if they didn't, they would have no choice but to hate themselves. Well.. Some of them anyway. There were quite a few I'm sure that would happily just make themselves and their children more well off on the backs of slaves. But pretty sure they were a minority and frankly the type that the rest of us would have run out of society.

It sucks to say, but there were a lot of good people who owned slaves. They really did think they were doing the slaves a favor treating them like they did. Good people, good intentions, can be wrong.

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In other words, if a racist could ask for something that’s a realistic alternative to the way things are now, what would that something be and how should we go about getting there?

There is no realistic alternative to the question posed. Not at this time anyway.

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Anyway, that's all. And I'm not going to argue, I don't think, it'd just be interesting as hell to get an honest answer as to what people are thinking.
Maybe there's some event horizon for hate we just need to reach? We wear ourselves out and get too tired to fight anymore?

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#105607 - 03/26/18 05:13 AM Re: Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd. [Re: Zin]
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Interesting man, I'd heard some of this stuff...like back in the late 80's, early nineties there was a lot of jewelry going on, the Mr. T chains and stuff, and yeah apparently that was about respect more than trying to show off your stuff.

The part about white people hating themselves though...that's interesting as hell. I mean, at first it sounds a little goofy, but yeah, it seems like something to think on for awhile.

By the way, I appreciate the explanation about self motivation and all that, but it seems like there's also a way where there's a will when it comes to trying to learn too. And I've learned a lot since the days when I had black people all figured out, you know?

I once was read about how they'd segregate cities out during the planning stages back in the day, often using the railroad tracks as a divider. That people really did get stuck on the wrong side of the tracks, the houses were more shoddily built, there were fewer parks, amenities or whatever.
And of course, since a lot of funding for schools comes from property taxes, you've got much lower quality schools in an area and BAM, suddenly there was something tangible to show that at the very least, it wasn't always all about nature.

And of course, the more you know, the more you realize how very little you know and the harder it is to pigeon-hole...all those black people living next sto....

You ever read the comment sections under stories on Yahoo or wherever? And there's always the "Dindu Nuffin" comment under a story about black crime. Or the "Where was BLM, HUH?? And I engaged one of these creeps the other day and he actually came across as pretty reasonable. "Objectively speaking, its perfectly reasonable to blah blah"
Another post later and he's like, "Oprah Winfrey mother fucker! If she can make it then black people have no excuse, NO EXCUSE!"
And his next post was just, "F*CK YOU YOU F*CKEN NI@@ER LOVING CUCK!"

I kind of think that dude might not have been all that objective to begin with. Seemed almost like he already had his mind made up lol

Just some dude with anger issues who probably says the same shit to everyone that engages him, starting off with the appearance of being reasonable. Or maybe he'll eventually add a disclaimer. "Hey friend, here's my pitch, but ultimately I'm really hoping that we can come together in our hate, so...hear me out!

Lol anyway, that's interesting stuff man. I don't know if I believe it, but I never thought about it before so its definitely worth thinking about, yo. =]

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#105608 - 03/26/18 05:23 AM Re: Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd. [Re: Zin]
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It sucks to say, but there were a lot of good people who owned slaves.

This guy, you ever hear of Adam Carrola? He does a good bit about this as far as it just being the time it was. There wasn't anything wrong with it way back in the day, so morality wasn't really in the picture at all.
I get what you're saying, its just funny that today we'll see it a lot in Hollywood. If the movie is set back in 1816 or whatever, the protagonist is probably going to make a show of just how much he laments this whole slavery thing. Yeah its a part of life but dangit, he just wishes it wasn't. Its just not right!

In reality, that dude probably didn't look twice. Its just the way it was back then, period, you know? Socially accepted, not an issue, not something to think about or look twice at. Starting to seem like these movies aren't all that realistic!

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#105609 - 03/26/18 05:24 AM Re: Quick question about racism I always wondered...directed toward anyone. Okay its for Jagd. [Re: baraka66]
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Originally Posted By: baraka66
Maybe you should vote for Trump.
Maybe you should go straight to hell STRAIGHT TO HELL!!

Unless Hillary runs again...I'd probably...no never mind, STRAIGHT TO HELL!

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